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Moe Wagner of the Washington Wizards is one of the league leaders in charges taken.

On the “Full Court Press” podcast, he discussed the different ways to stop his opponents when he guards bigger guys or helps out on more explosive guards.

“I know I’m not the best or the biggest shot blocker,” Wagner said. “I try to come up with creative ways to try to stop the opponent without being able to block the shot.”

Here’s the full sound bite: