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Greece NT 2011
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[quote name='Panathinaikos' timestamp='1290073578' post='26333']

This year PAO will be in big trouble in those games because they don't have any go to player in offense. Who will it be? Tepic? Perperoglou? Diamantidis? No. Batiste could be the guy but first you need to set him up. He is not a creator and he does not have the ball in his hands.



I don't see guys like Sato and Calathes doing it. So the most likely guy then would be Nicholas. He's capable of being that new go to scorer, but truth be told he is a bit too streaky of a shooter and relies on his long distance shots a bit too much. He could be like Navarro and shot you into a victory or also shoot you into a defeat.



There is not a Siska like in 2007, nor a Spanoulis like in 2008-2010 in PAO now. There is not even a guy like Saras in 2008-2009 era who could at least be a go to guy in spurts. It's not to say that a guy like Perpe or Diamantidis cannot carry a team for one game because they can. But in a back to back elimination like a final four and especially in a 5 game playoff series I don't see it happening.



PAO is more likely to win a Greek Cup because it is a one game deal. A final four is less likely. A 5 game series against a Euroleague team depends on the match up. I don't see them winning a 5 game series in the playoffs in A1 against Olympiacos.



It will be just like the last few years when Olympiacos did not really have a go to scorer late in the games that was dependable. People say Teodosic is but he's really not. He's dependable for a big play, a big shot, the last shot of the game, but not for carrying a team in a playoff series.



I don't see anyone on PAO's roster than can do that. Olympiacos at least has Spanoulis. Diamantidis and Teodosic are more or less in the same in that regard. They can make the big plays and shots, but they should not be counted on as to take over the 4th quarter in offense in every key game.



So between Spanoulis (who has proven he can do this) and Nicholas (the likely one to try it with PAO but who is not proven in that role) I think it's too shaky for PAO. Nicholas can be that guy, but will he? For some reason I don't see it.

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PAO didn't get last Euroleague's title with Spanoulis and Greece didn't get a title as well last summer. So, the fact that Olympiakos signed Spanoulis doesn't mean that they will win the greek championship.

Spanoulis is a great player but he is not more valuable than Diamantidis! Diamantidis can do many things: scoring, assists, blocks... Bill's game is more "dimensional". This why most of the times he gets the right defense, he can't do much.
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