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May 1, 2012, 6:06 pm
(This post was last modified: May 1, 2012, 6:38 pm by straight forward.)
[quote name='TeoTheGreek13' timestamp='1335890079' post='37980']
Why should I care about team's tradition???
You don't have Sabonis or Marciulionis anymore. You don't have the young Saras, you don't have Siskauskas, Lavrinovic brothers are nothing compared to what they were, Kaukenas will be out.
I just think that Lithuania isn't that strong. You have a young team that could be contender in the next years but not this year.
I gave Argentina an 8 because of Ginobili, Scola, Delfino and Prigioni.
They always had few great players but those players were so good that Argentina is still #2 on the world ranking.
Russia won the 2007 Eurobasket and they won the bronze medal last year. What the hell has their Olympic games tradition has to do with how good they are?
USA and Spain's rankings doesn't really need further analysis.
I also gave Greece an 8 because of our roster. Everyone will be available except Diamantidis.
France was #2 in the Eurobasket last year and they have players ike Parker, Batum, Noah, Pietrus and Diaw. So, yeah, I think that's an 8 maybe 8.5.
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Why you should care about tradition? As Hanah Arendt said if there's no past - there's no future <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' /> Why would some Greeks come up with argument that you don't have Sabas and MarÄiulionis anymore when asked why they underrate Lithuania? <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> Lithuania won already 4 medals without these legends. Young and without Å aras, KaukÄnas, Å iÅ¡kauskas, LavriniviÄs, Songaila (without ValanÄiÅ«nas, MotiejÅ«nas as well) NT 2010 destroyed Argentina (with Scola, Delfino, Prigioni, but without Ginobili) and gave USA probably the best run for their money. We can discuss different matchups, to argue about depth and talent (and we will when the tournament begin or at least we'll know the rosters), but to put it short - I don't see why Lithuania shouldn't be 3d best team in Olympics after USA and Spain. In other words, except these two teams I don't see a single team that Lithuania couln't battle and couldn't win. Having in mind Lithuania's culture, consistency, current depth and tremendous raw talent I don't see why Luthuania should be ranked behid any team except USA, Spain. That's off course with all- roster. KaukÄnas is in action for about a week and is playing well. So my point is clear - Greece, Argentina, Russia, France and Lithuania are all about the same level and only the history, attitude, determination and extreame consistency makes me favour Argentina and Lithuania. Some reminder:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSqDNcA0KgA
Ok, so what's with Greece? Who are these players that will lead Greece except Spanoulis? Off couse, I know Greece has deep and solid roster, but didn't found convincing that argument "because of our roster". You won't even have your best player in the tournament, where the optimism comes from?
Why should I care about team's tradition???
You don't have Sabonis or Marciulionis anymore. You don't have the young Saras, you don't have Siskauskas, Lavrinovic brothers are nothing compared to what they were, Kaukenas will be out.
I just think that Lithuania isn't that strong. You have a young team that could be contender in the next years but not this year.
I gave Argentina an 8 because of Ginobili, Scola, Delfino and Prigioni.
They always had few great players but those players were so good that Argentina is still #2 on the world ranking.
Russia won the 2007 Eurobasket and they won the bronze medal last year. What the hell has their Olympic games tradition has to do with how good they are?
USA and Spain's rankings doesn't really need further analysis.
I also gave Greece an 8 because of our roster. Everyone will be available except Diamantidis.
France was #2 in the Eurobasket last year and they have players ike Parker, Batum, Noah, Pietrus and Diaw. So, yeah, I think that's an 8 maybe 8.5.
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Why you should care about tradition? As Hanah Arendt said if there's no past - there's no future <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' /> Why would some Greeks come up with argument that you don't have Sabas and MarÄiulionis anymore when asked why they underrate Lithuania? <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> Lithuania won already 4 medals without these legends. Young and without Å aras, KaukÄnas, Å iÅ¡kauskas, LavriniviÄs, Songaila (without ValanÄiÅ«nas, MotiejÅ«nas as well) NT 2010 destroyed Argentina (with Scola, Delfino, Prigioni, but without Ginobili) and gave USA probably the best run for their money. We can discuss different matchups, to argue about depth and talent (and we will when the tournament begin or at least we'll know the rosters), but to put it short - I don't see why Lithuania shouldn't be 3d best team in Olympics after USA and Spain. In other words, except these two teams I don't see a single team that Lithuania couln't battle and couldn't win. Having in mind Lithuania's culture, consistency, current depth and tremendous raw talent I don't see why Luthuania should be ranked behid any team except USA, Spain. That's off course with all- roster. KaukÄnas is in action for about a week and is playing well. So my point is clear - Greece, Argentina, Russia, France and Lithuania are all about the same level and only the history, attitude, determination and extreame consistency makes me favour Argentina and Lithuania. Some reminder:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSqDNcA0KgA
Ok, so what's with Greece? Who are these players that will lead Greece except Spanoulis? Off couse, I know Greece has deep and solid roster, but didn't found convincing that argument "because of our roster". You won't even have your best player in the tournament, where the optimism comes from?