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Aug 23, 2010, 7:33 pm
[quote name='ZEUS' date='23 August 2010 - 06:17 PM' timestamp='1282583865' post='24328']
Sounds like you forget your own NT's pre-history... [/quote]
First of all I can be called a lots of names but being nationaly-driven is not who I am. I just see things as they are, and I hope you got that, or this discussion doesnt have any purpose.
Ok, so you've proven your point. We are "anti-atletes". The reason why I questioned that is because I thought you were reffering to something else. See us that way, I don't mind, there are perfectly good reason why do we have, somethimes, to ac as anti-athletes.
Ok, what would you do to see someone like Sofo stumping on your friend while he is on a ground? Have you ever been in a fight? Yes? Dont moralise then. No? I didnt think so.
And I am not reffering to a "chair-issue", I already said what I think about that.
Protocol doesnt give a s*** who is Burusis if he is not registered for the game. And he was not. He was just a spectator, like the one tiny-tini dark-tanned Greek who was trying to hit Krstic but just couldnt reach him.
And there are some responsibilities for home team for letting spectators go at the court, no matter what was happening.
Dont be such an ignorrant. [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Greatest_Euroleague_Contributors"]Here is something to read[/url]. Just count and you'll see we've proven ourselves much, much earlier, when, just for example, you, didnt had anyone or any medal won to brag with it.
Sure, lets blame one man for all the success. And all won games.
The video shows "anti-athletic" behaviour by Fotsis who could not stand being "hit-to-hurt-as-hell" by a little punk Teodosic so he had to explain him something. Where were refeeres to treat that sort of behaviour with technical fouls?
Again, what would you do if you were in Teo's place? seriously?
S**t I didnt know this :/ <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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This statement is funny, 'case everybody know that it has nothing to do with what happened that night, it was so transparent PAO-Oly thing as I explained and 99% of objective and normal Greeks confirm that.
Further, I would love you to ban all foreigners from you basketball league, especialy our coaches. That would be some interesting competition to follow.
Dont you know who was the coach of Oly while they won one and only Euroleague in their history? And who was one of the best players in that team? And not to start with Obradovic and PAO + Bodiroga..
I dont see how your economic "support" can measure with billions and billions of money we spend vacationing in your country throughout the history. Again, from this point, Tsartsaris's statement is just idiot-man-talking.
Don't support us ever again.
Have you seen 2005 European championship final? That is support.
And do you know how you have been supporting us in 1995 and 1998?
So, please, stop supporting us. Release all of our's players and coaches from your clubs.
All I am criticizing is your view on the incident.
At the price to let those like Fotsis to behave like he did or Diamantidis to spit on you led by his inadequance to outplay you? Yeah, stand for yourself.
Sounds like you forget your own NT's pre-history... [/quote]
First of all I can be called a lots of names but being nationaly-driven is not who I am. I just see things as they are, and I hope you got that, or this discussion doesnt have any purpose.
Ok, so you've proven your point. We are "anti-atletes". The reason why I questioned that is because I thought you were reffering to something else. See us that way, I don't mind, there are perfectly good reason why do we have, somethimes, to ac as anti-athletes.
Quote:Right, so by that logic, if Krstic had a knife, he would have been innocent of stabbing Sofo, because Sofo was 'killing' Teodosic.
Is that the best you can do to excuse his actions? And yeah, he could stand-up to Sofo face to face, but he didn't do that. He was a coward.
Ok, what would you do to see someone like Sofo stumping on your friend while he is on a ground? Have you ever been in a fight? Yes? Dont moralise then. No? I didnt think so.
And I am not reffering to a "chair-issue", I already said what I think about that.
Quote:Bouroussis was there because he was trying to keep Sofo from grabbing Krstic and sweeping the floor with him. Bouroussis was injured, but part of the 15 men Hellas men's basketball squad. What protocol? What rules? It was a fight!
Protocol doesnt give a s*** who is Burusis if he is not registered for the game. And he was not. He was just a spectator, like the one tiny-tini dark-tanned Greek who was trying to hit Krstic but just couldnt reach him.
And there are some responsibilities for home team for letting spectators go at the court, no matter what was happening.
Quote:Also don't forget that you have yet to prove yourself so much as a basketball nation, because you don't have the option of getting players from ex-Yugoslav federal states, or even Montenegro for that matter. No one is undermining the Serbs either, but you've got a way to go before fully registering your just presence on the world basketball scene. The silver at the last Eurobasket was a good start.
Dont be such an ignorrant. [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Greatest_Euroleague_Contributors"]Here is something to read[/url]. Just count and you'll see we've proven ourselves much, much earlier, when, just for example, you, didnt had anyone or any medal won to brag with it.
Quote:With your history from Stankovic's favouritism winning you umpteen official matches, you're the last ones that should be talking about any ref favouritism.
Sure, lets blame one man for all the success. And all won games.
Quote:You didn't explain anything. The video clearly shows Teodosic throwing the first punch, and Fotsis then spits in his face. This is all began because of Teodosic. He did the same things vs. Diamandidis who has never, EVER got into a fight with anyone or shown anti-athletic behaviour. Teodosic should get fined from Olybiakos because of this, although I doubt that is really going to happen.
The video shows "anti-athletic" behaviour by Fotsis who could not stand being "hit-to-hurt-as-hell" by a little punk Teodosic so he had to explain him something. Where were refeeres to treat that sort of behaviour with technical fouls?
Again, what would you do if you were in Teo's place? seriously?
Quote:Tsartsaris statement was about players like Teodosic getting fed here in Greece and causing so many problems. There are loads of other Greek players who are just as good as him that could be receiving the money instead. MVP awards are the last thing on our boys minds after the borderline diplomatic episode you caused.
S**t I didnt know this :/ <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' />This statement is funny, 'case everybody know that it has nothing to do with what happened that night, it was so transparent PAO-Oly thing as I explained and 99% of objective and normal Greeks confirm that.
Further, I would love you to ban all foreigners from you basketball league, especialy our coaches. That would be some interesting competition to follow.
Dont you know who was the coach of Oly while they won one and only Euroleague in their history? And who was one of the best players in that team? And not to start with Obradovic and PAO + Bodiroga..
Quote:Ashamed for what? All we've ever done is support your country economically and politically, and then you have the sheer cheek to want to get on top of the whole situation as well?
Maybe you should take a long, hard look at your nationalist behaviour before you go criticizing others, and you should be grateful that we have supported you so far in all the wars and trials and tribulations you've been through.
I dont see how your economic "support" can measure with billions and billions of money we spend vacationing in your country throughout the history. Again, from this point, Tsartsaris's statement is just idiot-man-talking.
Don't support us ever again.
Have you seen 2005 European championship final? That is support.
And do you know how you have been supporting us in 1995 and 1998?
So, please, stop supporting us. Release all of our's players and coaches from your clubs.
All I am criticizing is your view on the incident.
Quote:All your answer is "bite the hand that feeds you". Nice <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thup:' />
At the price to let those like Fotsis to behave like he did or Diamantidis to spit on you led by his inadequance to outplay you? Yeah, stand for yourself.