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I heard he would retire in case of a lockout...
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He is not that old.
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I think he's 28 or 29.. And the Spurs still need him, he better not retire <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' />
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In case of lock-out, Goran Dragic said he will play for Olimpija or Krka. I think it's more likely he'll play for Krka, because his brother is playing there and also Aleksandar Dzikic is one of his favourite coaches.
It's sure going to be an interesting season, if lock-out will happen. <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' />
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It will bring out the popularity of Europe basket among USA players, and hopefully, more better and better players will come to Europe.
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If the problem in the NBA is solved in the middle of the season do these players that came to Europe have to go back immediately? Cuz if so it can be quite a problem for many teams that will lose important players in very short notice in the middle of the season..
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Hey, there is a well known American reporter that writes articles on a Greek site as long as the playoffs are taking place. Well, he wrote an article about the lock-out and from what he is saying the most possible scenario is that NBA will take place next year normally.
http://www.gazzetta.gr/bloggers/Chris-Sh...F%84%CE%B1 (READ THE ENGLISH VERSION, THE OTHER ONE IS IN GREEK) <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' />
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It's official now...
[url="http://www.nba.com/2011/news/06/30/lockout/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt1"]Talks over, owners tell players lockout coming at midnight[/url]
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Too bad for PAO and Olympiakos.They can't afford now stars from NBA. <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thudown.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thudown:' />
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Dirk going to a German team needs to happen. Germans are starting to become really interested in basketball especially now that the Mavs are the champions German excitement has peaked. A season of Dirk playing in Germany could stir up enough hype and excitement to get youth programs off the ground. Germany desperately needs this to aid in their development and it would be a shame if Dirk returned to Europe only to sign with a non-German team. He would be godlike if he plays in Deutschland.
Ersan Ilyasova wants a buyout from the Bucks even if there is a season next year. So add him to the list of players that will come over.
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Brace yourself: BRIAN SCALBRINE LIKELY HEADED TO EUROPE!!!!!!! <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rofl3.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' /> <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rofl3.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' /> <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rofl3.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' /> <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rofl3.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' />
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/bas...7947.story
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Agent Rob Pelinka is trying to arrange a tour in China with many of his clients. His list of clients includes Kobe Bryant, Derrick Williams, OJ Mayo, Eric Gordon, Chris Kaman, Carlos Boozer and Derek Fisher.
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I read about here Bryant joining euroleague team and making room for Nowitzki... I know some post here are old and some of you guys are now familiar with the whole situation but... Just so we make it clear.
Can NBA players play overseas during a lockout?
The answer to this one is "It's complicated." Stern said as far as he's concerned, the players can do what they want to do. But keep in mind, he's going to say that regardless -- he doesn't want to appear in any way to be trying to prevent the players from earning a living. Labor laws don't allow an employer to lock out its employees and prevent them from earning a living elsewhere.
Ultimately, it doesn't matter what Stern says or does -- the decision isn't up to him.
In order to play professionally overseas, FIBA (the organizing body for international basketball) requires a Letter of Clearance from the player's national organizing body. In the case of players from the United States, that's USA Basketball. The Letter of Clearance certifies that the player is free to sign a contract -- i.e., he has no other contractual obligations that would get in the way. An NBA contract is such a contractual obligation. Lockout or not, it's still an existing contract. So on the surface, an NBA player who's under contract would not be allowed to sign in any FIBA league. NBA free agents, on the other hand, can sign wherever they'd like.
But here's the rub -- we're getting into uncharted territory. FIBA has never found itself in this position before. FIBA could decide to alter or suspend its rule requiring a Letter of Clearance, or allow contracts to be signed so long as they contain language that says the contract becomes null and void immediately if the NBA lockout ends.
More likely, FIBA simply would stick to its existing rule, essentially punting the problem to the national organizing bodies. These bodies (such as USA Basketball) could decide to issue a Letter of Clearance notwithstanding the NBA lockout. Or they could issue a Letter of Clearance with a specific notation about the lockout -- essentially punting the problem right back to FIBA.
Finally, the NBA players could take FIBA and/or the national organizing bodies to court. The ability to block players in a lockout has never been tested through litigation, and once they're there, anything can happen.
If players under contract are cleared to play in Europe, will there be a mass exodus?
It's doubtful. For one thing, there simply aren't enough teams with enough open roster spots to accommodate 400-plus NBA players. And the ones who do sign overseas will likely make only a fraction of what they earned in the NBA. The Euroleague and other FIBA leagues simply can't afford to pay NBA players commensurate with the salaries to which they've grown accustomed.
So we will probably see a few head overseas, but certainly not a Who's Who of NBA players.
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Jul 3, 2011, 4:11 pm
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Is there ANY chance the problem will be solved before the beginning of the season and there'll be no lock out?
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[url="http://www.talkbasket.net/5824-barea-ibaka-interested-in-acb-in-case-lockout-persists.html"]Barea, Ibaka interested in ACB in case lockout persists[/url]
[url="http://www.talkbasket.net/5806-kirilenko-i-would-like-to-play-in-acb.html"]Kirilenko: I would like to play in ACB[/url]
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Quote:NBA star Deron Williams has agreed terms with Turkish club Besiktas in principle.
Williams will sign a contract with Besiktas that will allow him to return to NBA as soon as the lockout ends. Nevertheless it is the greatest summer transfer by a European club, so far.
Williams who was traded to New Jersey Nets earlier this season after a fall out with the former team coach Jerry Sloan would be receiving $16.000.000 this year, but obviously doesn't want to stay inactive during the lockout.
The 27 year old will reportedly receive $200.000 per month.
Club's coach Ergin Ataman has confirmed the move and stated that the club is also very close to Zaza Pachulia, as well.
So, first really big name came to play in Europe. I really think there will be 10 more at least. All players want to play and earn extra money, so they will all come to play in Europe if decent contracts are offered to them. Only question is how many NBA players(good ones, not those who play 3mins per game) can European clubs finance.
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So, first really big name came to play in Europe. I really think there will be 10 more at least. All players want to play and earn extra money, so they will all come to play in Europe if decent contracts are offered to them. Only question is how many NBA players(good ones, not those who play 3mins per game) can European clubs finance.
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That's ridiculously cheap for a player of his caliber. If there is no NBA season and Deron Williams plays say 8 months with Besiktas, then they would have signed him for $1.6m for the entire season. If that's the going salary, I think that it is worth the investment for European teams to try to sign at least one NBA All Star. Without an NBA season, Euroleague will get a ton of exposure, especially teams with familiar faces. Its a good opportunity to grow interest in the US and Asia.
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Jul 8, 2011, 8:14 am
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw...key_070711
bumsakalakabum.. don't make fool of yourself and signed with besiktas thats all i can say.
it's funny how only besiktas making these nonsense moves.. hahaaa
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Zaza Pachulia also has a verbal deal in place with Besiktas.
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That's ridiculously cheap for a player of his caliber. If there is no NBA season and Deron Williams plays say 8 months with Besiktas, then they would have signed him for $1.6m for the entire season. If that's the going salary, I think that it is worth the investment for European teams to try to sign at least one NBA All Star. Without an NBA season, Euroleague will get a ton of exposure, especially teams with familiar faces. Its a good opportunity to grow interest in the US and Asia.
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what is ridicilous is besiktas cant even afford for its current contracts with local players i dont know how they are going to pay nba players.
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I read that an independent sponsor will pay for Williams.
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