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NBA's Lock Out and... Euroleague!! - stefans - 11-26-2011

[quote name='alen' timestamp='1322308913' post='36254']

It will be interesting to see which players will go back to the NBA. <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />

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Vujacic and Weems will stay.Kirilenko is free agent so he must decide in 30 days did will stay.

I don't know about Rudy and Ilyasova...


NBA's Lock Out and... Euroleague!! - Black Urum - 11-26-2011

Rudy will go back for this season but return to Real Madrid next summer until 2016.


NBA's Lock Out and... Euroleague!! - MaccabiTA - 11-26-2011

Bye bye Farmar <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Sad' />


NBA's Lock Out and... Euroleague!! - TeoTheGreek13 - 11-26-2011

Hahahaha!!!

I was sure! <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Biggrin' />



Now we'll see the real F4 contenders!!! <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bag.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Bag' />

I was positive that the lock-out would end... and here we are!!!



Teams like PAO, Barca, OLY and CSKA should feel vindicated!! They'd done the right thing!! <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thup:' />

The only thing left is to see what happens with Kirilenko! If he has a good offer from a playoff team or a contender team I think he will go!



I can't wait to see what happens with the... New World Order!!! <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Biggrin' />



NBA's Lock Out and... Euroleague!! - TeoTheGreek13 - 11-26-2011

The players who will leave their Euroleague teams, are:



Nicola Batum - Nancy

Jordan Farmar - Maccabi

Danilo Gallinari - Milan

Serge Ibaka - Real

Rudy Fernandez - Real

Ty Lawson - Zalgiris ***Sonny Weems stays!

Nikola Pekovic - Partizan ***Acie Law stays!

Thabo Sefolosha - Fenerbahce

Zaza Pachulia - Galatasaray

Kevin Seraphin - Caja Laboral

Goran Dragic - Caja Laboral

T.J. Ford - KK Zagreb

Danny Green - Olimpija




Have a good trip guys!!! <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/crazy.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Crazy' />



NBA's Lock Out and... Euroleague!! - smooth criminal - 11-26-2011

i want to see what blatt will do with the pg issue now.the whole team change.papalukas as starter?or berstain?they need a pg immediatelly!and no caspy after this decision..


NBA's Lock Out and... Euroleague!! - MaccabiTA - 11-26-2011

[quote name='smooth criminal' timestamp='1322322846' post='36265']

i want to see what blatt will do with the pg issue now.the whole team change.papalukas as starter?or berstain?they need a pg immediatelly!and no caspy after this decision..

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Papaloukas and Ohayon will enjoy more minutes until a new PG is brought, Burstein will probably play more at the 1 and Langford's minutes will grow immediately, he'll have to upgrade his performance.. if Langford will be needed for a few minutes here and there as PG we'll probably see Smith/Burstein at the 2 and possibly Blu at the 3 to form a very big line-up. Blatt has many options, the 3 that'll mostly 'enjoy' the situation are Ohayon, Papaloukas and Langford, Pnini might step up and get extra minutes at the 2 like he did last season after Perk's injury.

To sum it up, many players that didn't impress so far will get the chance to make it up for that, those that'll take their game to the next level will see significant minutes, Blatt has many combinations possible and most importantly, I just hope we get Farmar's replacement soon so that he'd be a real part of the team by the time the top16 starts


NBA's Lock Out and... Euroleague!! - skangles - 11-26-2011

[quote name='stefans' timestamp='1322312436' post='36255']

Vujacic and Weems will stay.Kirilenko is free agent so he must decide in 30 days did will stay.

I don't know about Rudy and Ilyasova...

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Rudy has a contract with Dallas, he will go back. Ilyasova has a contract with Milwaukee and wants out. He has asked the Bucks to buy him out of his contract. The Bucks have not acted because of the lockout. Ilyasova thinks that he is done in Milwaukee but it is the Bucks' decision. I think that they will release him though.



Adam Morrison and TJ Ford will be free to stay. Songaila will also stay.



Odom will never go, Williams will return. Batum and Parker will return.



Sorry for how scattered this post is, I am thinking through the NBA players in Europe (not just Euroleague) trying to think of whether or not they have a valid NBA contract.


NBA's Lock Out and... Euroleague!! - smooth criminal - 11-26-2011

[quote name='MaccabiTA' timestamp='1322324259' post='36267']

Papaloukas and Ohayon will enjoy more minutes until a new PG is brought, Burstein will probably play more at the 1 and Langford's minutes will grow immediately, he'll have to upgrade his performance.. if Langford will be needed for a few minutes here and there as PG we'll probably see Smith/Burstein at the 2 and possibly Blu at the 3 to form a very big line-up. Blatt has many options, the 3 that'll mostly 'enjoy' the situation are Ohayon, Papaloukas and Langford, Pnini might step up and get extra minutes at the 2 like he did last season after Perk's injury.

To sum it up, many players that didn't impress so far will get the chance to make it up for that, those that'll take their game to the next level will see significant minutes, Blatt has many combinations possible and most importantly, I just hope we get Farmar's replacement soon so that he'd be a real part of the team by the time the top16 starts

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many combinations for sure but less production.yes blatt has many all around players,especially guards,but no shooter,no scorer.i dont believe langford can can offer more.have you got something in mind about farmar's replacement?have you heard something there?


NBA's Lock Out and... Euroleague!! - skangles - 11-26-2011

[quote name='TeoTheGreek13' timestamp='1322318013' post='36263']

The players who will leave their Euroleague teams, are:



Nicola Batum - Nancy

Jordan Farmar - Maccabi

Danilo Gallinari - Milan

Serge Ibaka - Real

Rudy Fernandez - Real

Ty Lawson - Zalgiris ***Sonny Weems stays!

Nikola Pekovic - Partizan ***Acie Law stays!

Thabo Sefolosha - Fenerbahce

Zaza Pachulia - Galatasaray

Kevin Seraphin - Caja Laboral

Goran Dragic - Caja Laboral

T.J. Ford - KK Zagreb

Danny Green - Olimpija




Have a good trip guys!!! <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/crazy.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Crazy' />


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Much better list than I put together. TJ Ford is a free agent but you're right his contract has an NBA out clause. I can't see any team giving him a worthwhile contract in the NBA (anything above the Veteran Minimum). I think that he's better off staying in Europe but we'll see.


NBA's Lock Out and... Euroleague!! - TeoTheGreek13 - 11-26-2011

It's true that with the current roster, Maccabi will have a problem in PG position regarding the duration + quality!

I mean they have quality in Papaloukas but he hasn't duration.



The others may have duration but they don't have quality.



To sum up, Maccabi has no one with both quality and duration. <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Huh' />



NBA's Lock Out and... Euroleague!! - smooth criminal - 11-26-2011

[quote name='TeoTheGreek13' timestamp='1322326532' post='36274']

It's true that with the current roster, Maccabi will have a problem in PG position regarding the duration + quality!

I mean they have quality in Papaloukas but he hasn't duration.



The others may have duration but they don't have quality.



To sum up, Maccabi has no one with both quality and duration. <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Huh' />


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exactlty!and they need score


NBA's Lock Out and... Euroleague!! - TeoTheGreek13 - 11-26-2011

[quote name='smooth criminal' timestamp='1322326714' post='36275']

exactlty!and they need score

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That's why they signed Langford... I think! <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bag.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Bag' />



I think he can replace Farmar easy(?) in scoring.



NBA's Lock Out and... Euroleague!! - smooth criminal - 11-26-2011

[quote name='TeoTheGreek13' timestamp='1322327445' post='36277']

That's why they signed Langford... I think! <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bag.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Bag' />



I think he can replace Farmar easy(?) in scoring.


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yes but langford is not the player he was.it seems wrong to sign him.so they need a pargo style player.pg & scorer


NBA's Lock Out and... Euroleague!! - MaccabiTA - 11-26-2011

A new PG will be brought so the problem in this position will be solved, as for a scoring guard that's what Langford was brought here to do, so far he's having some problems but eventually he'll be the good old Langford.. it's not easy to join a team after they finished all the preparation stage together and the first games of the season but he'll catch up eventually.


NBA's Lock Out and... Euroleague!! - smooth criminal - 11-26-2011

plus langford isn't so good shooter as farmar..i think blatt will have big problem


NBA's Lock Out and... Euroleague!! - TeoTheGreek13 - 11-26-2011

[quote name='smooth criminal' timestamp='1322328105' post='36279']

yes but langford is not the player he was.it seems wrong to sign him.so they need a pargo style player.pg & scorer

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What do you mean, he's not the player he was??



Last year, he was the top scorer in Euroleague's regular season... <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Huh' />



NBA's Lock Out and... Euroleague!! - smooth criminal - 11-26-2011

[quote name='TeoTheGreek13' timestamp='1322328331' post='36282']

What do you mean, he's not the player he was??



Last year, he was the top scorer in Euroleague's regular season... <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Huh' />


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why did he left moscow...?after his injury the old langford doesn't excists.if you knew the player well it's obvious


NBA's Lock Out and... Euroleague!! - TeoTheGreek13 - 11-26-2011

[quote name='smooth criminal' timestamp='1322328625' post='36283']

why did he left moscow...?after his injury the old langford doesn't excists.if you knew the player well it's obvious

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I believe that he just needs to adjust in the new environment(Maccabi) just like Rakocevic in Siena!

Also, he did no preperation as far as I know...



He's not ready.

I don't say that the injury didn't affect him but let's wait...!



NBA's Lock Out and... Euroleague!! - smooth criminal - 11-26-2011

[quote name='TeoTheGreek13' timestamp='1322329252' post='36284']

I believe that he just needs to adjust in the new environment(Maccabi) just like Rakocevic in Siena!

Also, he did no preperation as far as I know...



He's not ready.

I don't say that the injury didn't affect him but let's wait...!


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i agree with you.that was just a prediction.he is not going to deliver.i believe the same for rako.he is not going to make it.and i like a lot both playwrs,especially rako.there arent in good shape and both choises arent the ideal for chemistry.siena wanted a player like hairston and maccabi a pargo style.thats just my opinion