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Traveling & Tourism - vakasimo2 - 09-23-2011

[quote name='Black Urum' timestamp='1316726787' post='34680']

Galata, European part right?



Are you serious? Who the hell will go into trouble to make some banners to protest some gas drilling... as for fans, I think more people will go from central Europe (Greeks and Turks I mean) than from Greece and Turkey...



I think Aris is native to Thessaloniki. Another well known team from Asia Minor is Panionios...



And yes, it will be a knock out tournament with 8 teams, so 3 games (for the finalist teams).

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Yes european part but it's huge , 6-7 millions of people is living there.

I'm serious these things can happen at games, I believe you saw such kind of things many time before throughout the world. But now it is in the neutral court. Well Lithuania is quite far to us and Galatasaray is mainly a football club, I don't think there will be more than 250 fans there. ANd Iat a neutral court I don't expect a protest. (don't overestimate it , they would only chant and show some pancards noth,ing more)



Ari-Panianios, well you know better.


Traveling & Tourism - ZEUS - 09-23-2011

[quote name='vakasimo2' timestamp='1316697713' post='34645']

I've heard something like that but not for PAOK , it was Aris I guess , they were the immigrants from Smyrna , right ? Then the PAOK are from Constantinople. Micro Asia = Asia Minor, yes I know that, I'm from Samsun an old Pontus city for example. We know some about greeks.



Galatasaray fans are not that fanatic, actually we played an unexpected final against Fenerbahce Ulker last year (you know always Fener-Efes finals are getting played) and I don't think our supporters will be pissed off taht much if we got eliminated.



HOWEVER ; Maybe Cyprus' deployment of the offshore platform at Aphrodite section in eastern mediterranian may cause some kind of provocation at the tribunes. I don't know what happens. I don't expect more than some vocal and pancard protests though.



P.S. : When you said invasion which event you reffered to, 1453 or 1922 ?

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I don't know about Aris, I'm not a supporter of theirs so can't really say, but any part of Greece that is 'New', so for example in Halkidiki we have 'New Marmaras' which is a region of concentration of refugees from original Marmaras who driven out in 1922 in the micro-Asian disaster. It is likely that Aris did have some refugees of the sort in the founding of the team. My grandmother hails from Galata, which is coming from the name of milk in Greek- 'gala' and was the neighbourhood where all the rich producers of milk and milk products lived in extremely grand villas that still stand today and are part of Constantinople's rich tapestry.


Traveling & Tourism - ZEUS - 09-23-2011

[quote name='vakasimo2' timestamp='1316697897' post='34646']

Galatasaray and Galata are different places by the way , close but not same. (Assuming that you know where Galata is)

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Oh I thought they were the same place? <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Blink' />


Traveling &amp; Tourism - vakasimo2 - 09-23-2011

[quote name='ZEUS' timestamp='1316741424' post='34693']

I don't know about Aris, I'm not a supporter of theirs so can't really say, but any part of Greece that is 'New', so for example in Halkidiki we have 'New Marmaras' which is a region of concentration of refugees from original Marmaras who driven out in 1922 in the micro-Asian disaster. It is likely that Aris did have some refugees of the sort in the founding of the team. My grandmother hails from Galata, which is coming from the name of milk in Greek- 'gala' and was the neighbourhood where all the rich producers of milk and milk products lived in extremely grand villas that still stand today and are part of Constantinople's rich tapestry.

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Yeah , there are very beautiful and big buildings from 19th century in Galata. But it is not a city center now, Galata (Former non-muslim city center) and Eminönü (Former muslim city center) are socially dead places , there is only daytime population now.



Marmaras refer to aegean tow marmaris of sea of marmara ?

[quote name='ZEUS' timestamp='1316741582' post='34694']

Don't forget the rag that is AEK...

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Orrayt


Traveling &amp; Tourism - vakasimo2 - 09-23-2011

[quote name='ZEUS' timestamp='1316741686' post='34695']

Oh I thought they were the same place? <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Blink' />

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Ok well , Galata refers to a former city center actually and it is more cultural than factual. Galatasaray is not a district it is a school in between two former Galata districts.


Traveling &amp; Tourism - ZEUS - 09-24-2011

[quote name='vakasimo2' timestamp='1316776363' post='34706']

Yeah , there are very beautiful and big buildings from 19th century in Galata. But it is not a city center now, Galata (Former non-muslim city center) and Eminönü (Former muslim city center) are socially dead places , there is only daytime population now.



Marmaras refer to aegean tow marmaris of sea of marmara ?

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I've been around Eminonu <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' /> It's interesting for browsing around for shopping, but I didn't really find many things that were worth buying. Certainly no shitty Chinese imports. I was hoping on finding some good Turkish leather jackets or something, but no luck.



And yeah, New Marmaras in Halkidiki in Greece was formed by the Greek refugees from Marmaras, modern day Marmaris. It was in reference to the marble that the region produced. 'Marmaro' means 'marble'.


Traveling &amp; Tourism - vakasimo2 - 09-24-2011

[quote name='ZEUS' timestamp='1316831096' post='34759']

I've been around Eminonu <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' /> It's interesting for browsing around for shopping, but I didn't really find many things that were worth buying. Certainly no shitty Chinese imports. I was hoping on finding some good Turkish leather jackets or something, but no luck.



And yeah, New Marmaras in Halkidiki in Greece was formed by the Greek refugees from Marmaras, modern day Marmaris. It was in reference to the marble that the region produced. 'Marmaro' means 'marble'.

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Sultanahmet is better for a tourist to buy something (pottery , leather and carpets) but leather is mainly sold at shoppping centers by famous trademarks DESA or DERIMOD , if you come again buy something unique from Eminönü - Sultanahmet and buy something with quality go Şişl-Levent-4.Levent.Eminönü serves as cheap goods center and some smuggled goods for turks. And ypu loved Hagia Sophia I guess. You know couple of years ago UN selected new 7 wonders of the world. That place isn't allowd to be in the list. It should have ben selected. I mean I'm totally nutral about that, ultimately we didn't build it , right ??



Marmaras, ha haa, Marmaris , it is the place I served for military service. Very beautiful place, people go there for sea-sun-danc but that place is a natural wonder. Its lagoon, pine forests an its light in the inter is very beautiful . I know this became like a tourist guide but as person lived there apart from having a vacation I really enjoyed remembering it.


Traveling &amp; Tourism - ZEUS - 09-27-2011

I was staying in Sultanahmet actually, although it's quite a cheesy tourist area, and expensive,a lot of the stuff that was sold there was crap Chinese imports. Precious little actual Turkish products were on sale. My gf wanted to buy a silk scarf, and the Chinese imports were around 20 EUR, whereas the Turkish ones were well over 70 <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dry.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Dry' />



Next time round I go, I'll get my friend from Kocaeli or from some parts of Istanbul to take me around where the locals go because I really don't like cheesy tourist area CRAP, designed to milk money out of you, for mediocre/shoddy service and quality. As well as getting my balls busted about buying F***ING carpets from so-and-so's cousin, and then getting pissed because I got pissed with them being rude especially in the presence of my girlfriend. I do have to say however, that some of the finest sweets I've eaten were in Istanbul, do you know that chain vakasimo, Oszut? <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />



Man they made the greatest profiteroles I've ever eaten!!!! Absolutely perfect texture and taste. Apparently they used a kind of chocolate I've never heard of before, 'Venetian chocolate', and it was unbelievably awesome! <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Laugh' />



I would go back to off of Taksim Square for those profiteroles once more <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/crazy.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Crazy' /> <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Biggrin' />


Traveling &amp; Tourism - Efes4ever - 09-27-2011

[quote name='ZEUS' timestamp='1316606693' post='34572']

Don't know if you know, but PAOK was formed by refugees who fled from Constantinople during the Turkish invasion into what we call 'micro Asia' the, the southwestern coastline of today's Turkey. I can remember shit always going down during PAO and Oly games, especially in Abdi Ipekci, with the throwing of bricks, etc. <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Tongue' /> I wonder what it will be like for us when we play in Galata? <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rofl3.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Rofl3' />

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If we compare,Ä°stanbul is curch next to athens <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rofl3.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Rofl3' />


Traveling &amp; Tourism - vakasimo2 - 09-28-2011

[quote name='ZEUS' timestamp='1317091188' post='34936']

I was staying in Sultanahmet actually, although it's quite a cheesy tourist area, and expensive,a lot of the stuff that was sold there was crap Chinese imports. Precious little actual Turkish products were on sale. My gf wanted to buy a silk scarf, and the Chinese imports were around 20 EUR, whereas the Turkish ones were well over 70 <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dry.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Dry' />



Next time round I go, I'll get my friend from Kocaeli or from some parts of Istanbul to take me around where the locals go because I really don't like cheesy tourist area CRAP, designed to milk money out of you, for mediocre/shoddy service and quality. As well as getting my balls busted about buying F***ING carpets from so-and-so's cousin, and then getting pissed because I got pissed with them being rude especially in the presence of my girlfriend. I do have to say however, that some of the finest sweets I've eaten were in Istanbul, do you know that chain vakasimo, Oszut? <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />



Man they made the greatest profiteroles I've ever eaten!!!! Absolutely perfect texture and taste. Apparently they used a kind of chocolate I've never heard of before, 'Venetian chocolate', and it was unbelievably awesome! <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Laugh' />



I would go back to off of Taksim Square for those profiteroles once more <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/crazy.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Crazy' /> <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Biggrin' />

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I had some foreigner friends about 10 years ago about because of my job at the time and they told me a concept "Sultanahmet Tax". Yes tourists are being milked brutally , I know that. Iknow chinese goods too but there are genuine goods too as you already mentioned.



Özsüt , of course I know taht chain, my wife loves it, I like Mado more, though. Listen if you come back to Taksim again eat profiterol at İnci. It is an old 19 century cafe , unique tradition great taste. You should try it.



Whose desert is baklava ? <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Wink' />


Traveling &amp; Tourism - Black Urum - 09-28-2011

Maybe you find this useful... it was voted blog of the year in Greece. It's about some Greek dude's adventures in Istanbul.



[url="http://angelisandtheistanbul.blogspot.com/"]http://angelisandtheistanbul.blogspot.com/[/url]


Traveling &amp; Tourism - ZEUS - 09-29-2011

[quote name='vakasimo2' timestamp='1317243094' post='35021']

I had some foreigner friends about 10 years ago about because of my job at the time and they told me a concept "Sultanahmet Tax". Yes tourists are being milked brutally , I know that. Iknow chinese goods too but there are genuine goods too as you already mentioned.



Özsüt , of course I know taht chain, my wife loves it, I like Mado more, though. Listen if you come back to Taksim again eat profiterol at İnci. It is an old 19 century cafe , unique tradition great taste. You should try it.



Whose desert is baklava ? <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Wink' />

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Heh heh, yeah I love Ozsut <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' /> I don't know about the other chains you mentioned. Basically Ozsut is on the main street that the tram car runs, and it's also on Sultanahmet's main uphill road. Where can I find Inci? I was using the Lonely Planet guide to find places, but I don't remember it being mentioned in the guide anywhere? Maybe it's one of those cool places off of the beaten track that the locals only know about?



Now about baklava, god knows, I've discovered that the food that you and i think exist in the Mediterranean region and Northern Africa, well those things go as far as Serbia (from what I'm aware of), believe it or not.



We have a world-famous cuisine anyway, so you can have baklava as far as I'm concerned <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rofl3.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Rofl3' />



Honestly we don't stuff baklava-type filo pastry syrupy sweets usually, it's only around festive seasons. I think we're definitely more into our French patisserie sweets. If you ever go to Thessaloniki, there's so much amazing food for you to eat, guaranteed you'll be leaving 5 kg heavier <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Wink' /> <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Cool' />