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Everything regarding Greek A1 2010/11 season here. Scores, fixtures, news etc...
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Quote:Time has come for Olympiacos and their fans to pay for everything that happened during the last final of Greek A1 2009/10 season. In an extremely harsh decision Olympiacos was sentences to play its first home games behind closed doors.



In case you haven't seen, or forgot, what occurred during the "night of shame of Greek basketball" (they have a lot lately...) here is a reminder...



[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHASBRGfkmM[/media]



As the Sports Judge decided, Olympiacos will have to play it's starting nine games of 2010/11 season behind closed doors. This is the most severe home arena ban to be inflicted upon a team in the history of Greek A1. The Piraeus-based club will also pay a hefty 111.000 euros fine.



Olympiacos is almost certain to appeal against the decision in order to cut the ban down to five or six games.
Olympiacos home arena bad reduced to six games (from nine).
Players considering to go on strike during the 1st matchday of the league next weekend.
Christ, the Panionios vs. PAOK game two games ago was pathetic from the side of the refs <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Rolleyes' />



I can't believe Panionios plays such hack-attack defense (granite defense my ass), not with flagrant touches and pushes, but outright slamming the opposition and the refs call for the game to be played on <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mellow.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Mellow' />



We used to have this sort of shit in the 90's, it's pathetic that it is still carrying on. PAOK had its balls busted for SUCH a lack of calls. It was criminal. Panionios was only productive from 6.75 mark, and their Nigerian center? All he knew how to do was to box and dunk <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Blink' />
Panathinaikos 112-42 Panellinios... that's right... 70 points... [Image: bag.gif]
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Panathinaikos 112-42 Panellinios... that's right... 70 points... [Image: bag.gif]

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And I thought the Israeli league was bad <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Ohmy' />
Why do you think they want to create some sort of international league in the Mediterranean? But some countries are spoiling the deal... [Image: thudown.gif]
"Panellinios" very surprised me this season. They have some good, expierenced players, but don't have a team spirit or something.. Just 12 position in the standings.. That's happen this team? Laste season, with coach Zouros this team play much better
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Why do you think they want to create some sort of international league in the Mediterranean? But some countries are spoiling the deal... [Image: thudown.gif]

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If Maccabi officials started talking about Adriatic and vtb than I guess the med' league idea is down
So AEK has been demoted to the A2, and are trying to save their asses by somehow implicating the boss of Ilysiakos and huge-number-of-players-in-Greece-in-every-category manager, in him fixing games so that Ilysiakos survived into the A1 instead of AEK. Hearing all this, when apparently this guy is supposed to be an AEK fan most of his life?? <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rofl3.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Rofl3' />



On top of that, Aris Thessaloniki is appealing to the sports judge that PAOK gets demoted to fourth place because of playing a game with too many fans in the stands, when the team was originally banned from having any fans whatsoever!!! Welcome to the fiasco of a league called HEBA (ΕΣΑΚΕ) <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rofl3.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Rofl3' /> <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Rolleyes' />
Good riddance AEK [Image: thup.gif]
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If Maccabi officials started talking about Adriatic and vtb than I guess the med' league idea is down

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Maccabi officials are in Ljubljana on F4.They will try to deal.
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Good riddance AEK [Image: thup.gif]

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What is most amazing is how they struggling to wriggle out of it, proving somehow Delibaltadakis fixed up match results by making the players he manages play sub-par?



Kolossus of Rhodes was pissed at this (referring to the match vs. Ilysiakos which sealed the fate of AEK), Kafkis (one of Delibaltadakis's players) played with muscle injections, albeit being injured, and Rhodes sure as hell didn't want to get 8th place to the playoffs, but 5th instead. Still, AEK seems determined... <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Rolleyes' />
sour grapes by the most loser team of Greece...
AEK appealed against Ilysiakos claiming that a players' agent was involved in the club management and the judge ruled in their favour...



So as things stand right now AEK will be saved and Ilysiakos will be relegated...



Another disgusting example of how things work in Greece and the "law of the powerful"... now Ilysiakos, which is a tiny Athens neighbourhood team amongst all the giants but still is the #1 feeder of Greece NT with players of all ages will get relegated when they won their spot in A1 in the courts fair and square...



What a disgrace!
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AEK appealed against Ilysiakos claiming that a players' agent was involved in the club management and the judge ruled in their favour...



So as things stand right now AEK will be saved and Ilysiakos will be relegated...



Another disgusting example of how things work in Greece and the "law of the powerful"... now Ilysiakos, which is a tiny Athens neighbourhood team amongst all the giants but still is the #1 feeder of Greece NT with players of all ages will get relegated when they won their spot in A1 in the courts fair and square...



What a disgrace!

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If they are the #1 feeder of the Greece NT of all ages fair enough, but when it comes to the men's NT, it's us, the North that feeds the team <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Wink' />



But yeah, about that whole 'decision', I've never heard of anything so pathetic in the history of sports. Even if Delibaltadakis was in fact a shareholder on Ilysiakos, what has this got to do with them being relegated? Obviously AEK's ass is on fire, and they are trying to hang onto every single technicality possible to avoid the relegation, I've never seen a team behave with such absence of dignity.



If anything, ESAKE is guilty of allowing Ilysiakos to play for two seasons so far in the A1. The reports from the press are rather cloudy, and I'm suspicious of foul play when it came to the sport judge's decision, perhaps with a princely sum in a Swiss bank account?



In Greece absolutely everything and anything is possible. What a f*cking fiasco of unfathomable proportions. If Ilysiakos is relegated and AEK saved, the latter should take this to FIBA. This cannot and must not just get brushed under the carpet like many other crimes committed in this country.



Let's not get into politics now... <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Tongue' />
F**k this, after the Greek football cup's fiasco, this is what our 'sport' is all about, police who have orders to do nothing to the hooligans, 'security' people drinking coffee while all hell is breaking loose, where athletes are at personal risk from hooligans including their families.



What a shit hole of sports 'organization' we have in this bordelo 'country'. We deserve the shit we're going through, we do it all ourselves to our ourselves again, and then "oops, we made an arse of ourselves one more time in front of the foreigners' eyes" <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Rolleyes' />



Greece, the land where anyone with connections and/or money NEVER gets punished.



We always talk with wishes, but NOTHING ever gets done. Like the English saying goes: "All talk, nae tackle". <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Rolleyes' /> <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mellow.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Mellow' />



I can't imagine what the (this season's) Greek basketball cup final is going to be like. Or the championship final for that matter. <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bag.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Bag' />
So far three teams have made it to the semi finals...



PAOK (beat Kavala 2-0)

Panathinaikos (beat Peristeri 2-0)

Olympiacos (beat Kolossos 2-0)



Aris will host Maroussi is the last game of the series, tied at 1-1
PAOK and Aris will scrap it out for the third spot, when it used to always be for the championship, but hey, at least this is an upgrade (especially for PAOK) for the shitty seasons had before for a LONG time. I hope PAOK manage third place, just to give some satisfaction to the fans, and to fill up the team's coffers for the next season.
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