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[quote name='TeoTheGreek13' timestamp='1315499390' post='33598']

FYROM makes me sick, so does Bo... <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thudown.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thudown:' />



Russia was the winner even before the jumpball!



So now we are waiting for tonight's big game!! <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thup:' />


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I totally agree. If Greece can in this game they can even be the leader. Yet in fact it is not that important because whoever omes from th goup e , it will be as hard to play.

But as a turk I can say that much ; If you defeat slovenia and russi (btw they are my favorites) , and we can defeat serbia , then guess who will play for the semi finals ??
I don't know, both teams have the quality to win. Both teams lost there last game but I think Serbia's motivation will be stronger!



I think easy or not Serbia will win. Don't forget that they have a much better and more experienced coach than you.



We will see, everything is possible! <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Wink' />
[quote name='vakasimo2' timestamp='1315501521' post='33599']

3.Who do you think will win between Serbia and Turkey? I know serbs want revenge!

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Quote:It is up to Teodosic, if he plays like Lithuania match I believe we can disturb Kristic enough to win the game. If he plays well (especially at managing the team), we have no chance.







You really think Teo is that good??
The best for Greece by the time 2nd group stage ends Greece "have to" be 2 places up or down grom FYROM.

That's because if Greece get eliminated in the knock-out round, then we will play with McCalebb's team for places 5-8!!!



That's the best scenario for Greece!
[quote name='Raze Lupin' timestamp='1315502849' post='33603']

You really think Teo is that good??

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Look, I'm a Panathinaikos fan(if you know what I mean!! <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Wink' /> ) and I say that he has A LOT of talent, especially in offense he can be lethal! <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thup:' />



The thing is that he has some very important drawbacks.

He is a bad defender. He is the player that every other player want to be defended from!

Also, from times to times he gets crazy, he loses control and 99% of these times his team suffers the consequences... <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thudown.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thudown:' />



I don't he will ever be able to overcome this and that's gonna kepp him away from achievments that he could reach if he hasn't these drawbacks.

But none player is perfect... <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Wink' />
Until Begic join to the game, Greek players didn't let them enter to the paint. At the first quarter Greece didn't try 3 pt shot even one time. Because they found easy points from the paint. At the second quarter Slovenia's zone defence worked, but they were nonefficient at offense. Lakovic should set in to the game for Slovenia. And Greece should continue to use their big men.
[quote name='Raze Lupin' timestamp='1315502849' post='33603']

You really think Teo is that good??

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I do, yet there is more about him when the rival is turkey.

Turkey is vulnarable to guards can shoot and assist as well (see saras, berisha,parker), it is mostly because they spoil our defensive plan based on getting buryied inside, and without Guler and Tunçeri's efforts we can't stop it easily.



And Teodosic's friends are way better shoooters than french and polish guys. Briefly , Teodosic is very good but excellent when he faces us.
[quote name='TeoTheGreek13' timestamp='1315502728' post='33602']

I don't know, both teams have the quality to win. Both teams lost there last game but I think Serbia's motivation will be stronger!



I think easy or not Serbia will win. Don't forget that they have a much better and more experienced coach than you.



We will see, everything is possible! <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Wink' />


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I have a hope about Savanovic's discontent mentality and Teodosic's status against lithuania but %51 Serbia for me. I would be very happy if we win as underdogs but I won't be shocked , I'm not that pessimistic. And Ivkovic is not better than Ene , he is the best.
[quote name='vakasimo2' timestamp='1315509844' post='33608']

I have a hope about Savanovic's discontent mentality and Teodosic's status against lithuania but %51 Serbia for me. I would be very happy if we win as underdogs but I won't be shocked , I'm not that pessimistic. And Ivkovic is not better than Ene , he is the best.

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I'm sorry budy, Obradovic is the best... even Ivkovic said that!!! <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Wink' />
Did I told you that I love these guys!!!!!! <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Wink' /> <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thup:' /> <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thup:' /> <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thup:' />



We started the game strong in both ends and the fact that Slovenia missed 11 3s in a row was a result of our great defense. Slovenia also is the worst 3 point team in the Eurobasket.

Greece show again weakness to 2.20 guys(Begic). He kept Slovenia in the game, no question!

I was impressed with Papanikolaou's 2 3pointers in a row. That was big(especially for this player). Calathes did a great job. Basically everyone did a great job except Kaimakogkou, he was at least terrible. <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thudown.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thudown:' />



During the 3rd quarter I was extremely mad with Zouros, I think he didn't use Fotsis(our best player and leader) for the entire 3rd quarter. <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Huh' />



Zisis was just great!!! <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thup:' />

Thank god we have at least one mature point guard left!





Great job guys!!! <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Wink' /> <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thup:' />
LOL Slovenia. 3pt shooting and FT's are disastrous
NIKOS ZISIS HAD HIS BEST GAME FOR THE NATIONAL TEAM TONIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



BYE BYE SLOVENIA! 69-60 <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Biggrin' />
[quote name='Raze Lupin' timestamp='1315496840' post='33593']

yes in some other games he had help this game was all BO! 27 points???? Thanks for the fix!

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Bo is a great player, and we should be enjoying him in the Euroleague, but not when he gets hired as a mercenary by a nobody country like FYROM. All the rest of Bo's teammates are miles worse than him and definitely NOT capable of bringing FYROM where it currently is. This is why naturalization pisses me off <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thudown.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thudown:' />
We are so shit in attack, it's unbelievable.



Fuckin' hell, we missed 10 free throws <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/angry.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Angry' />





Our defense is very good, but what can you do with good defense, when you are so shit in attack.





Congrats to Greeks.
Big difference in quality between Group E where is the best teams and group where are so funny teams.Just check results where in best group you see 80-90 points per game and second group where is 60 points average <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Blink' /> <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thudown.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thudown:' />
[quote name='TeoTheGreek13' timestamp='1315510876' post='33609']

I'm sorry budy, Obradovic is the best... even Ivkovic said that!!! <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Wink' />

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Maybe he said that to recieve a compliment back
[quote name='ZEUS' timestamp='1315511560' post='33613']

Bo is a great player, and we should be enjoying him in the Euroleague, but not when he gets hired as a mercenary by a nobody country like FYROM. All the rest of Bo's teammates are miles worse than him and definitely NOT capable of bringing FYROM where it currently is. This is why naturalization pisses me off <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thudown.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thudown:' />

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Which is worst ?



FYROM , Albania or Turkey



(It is not even a tricky question I just wonder)
[quote name='gregsz' timestamp='1315512202' post='33615']

We are so shit in attack, it's unbelievable.



Fuckin' hell, we missed 10 free throws <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/angry.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Angry' />





Our defense is very good, but what can you do with good defense, when you are so shit in attack.





Congrats to Greeks.

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Slovnia is like Turkey. Bad shooting , bad cruical times play but good struggle.

I can't believe a team with Lakovic and Dragic are the worst team at 3 pointer percentage. What do you think ?

Congrats to greeks btw, apart from the 3rd quarter they were better than I was expecting.
[quote name='stefans' timestamp='1315513258' post='33616']

Big difference in quality between Group E where is the best teams and group where are so funny teams.Just check results where in best group you see 80-90 points per game and second group where is 60 points average <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Blink' /> <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thudown.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thudown:' />

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The thing that Group F has more defensive teams don't make them funny. <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Blink' />



I hope you didn't mean that... <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Wink' />
[quote name='vakasimo2' timestamp='1315514038' post='33620']

Slovnia is like Turkey. Bad shooting , bad cruical times play but good struggle.

I can't believe a team with Lakovic and Dragic are the worst team at 3 pointer percentage. What do you think ?

Congrats to greeks btw, apart from the 3rd quarter they were better than I was expecting.

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Eh? He was never good at 3 pointers.
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