[quote name='lord_slawe_' date='23 August 2010 - 08:33 PM' timestamp='1282588425' post='24332']
First of all I can be called a lots of names but being nationaly-driven is not who I am. I just see things as they are[/quote]
You see things how you
want to see them. Not how they are. We are both biased in our own way since our nationalities were on both sides of the fight. And that nationalist thing, I didn't make it up, I had a group of 20-25 Yugo friends, and MANY of them had plenty of nationalist views.
I'm not saying however this applies to you specifically either.
But this is said about Serbs from foreigners, mark my words.
[quote name='lord_slawe_' date='23 August 2010 - 08:33 PM' timestamp='1282588425' post='24332']
Ok, so you've proven your point. We are "anti-atletes". The reason why I questioned that is because I thought you were reffering to something else. See us that way, I don't mind, there are perfectly good reason why do we have, somethimes, to ac as anti-athletes.[/quote]
Really? Well those who think they have good reason for doing whatever they think are rightfully doing shouldn't be partaking in the sport originally.
[quote name='lord_slawe_' date='23 August 2010 - 08:33 PM' timestamp='1282588425' post='24332']
Ok, what would you do to see someone like Sofo stumping on your friend while he is on a ground? Have you ever been in a fight? Yes? Dont moralise then. No? I didnt think so.[/quote]
Don't moralize? So is that how Serbs fight? behind the back? And yes I've been in some pretty rough situations myself, but that's beside the point.
[quote name='lord_slawe_' date='23 August 2010 - 08:33 PM' timestamp='1282588425' post='24332']And I am not reffering to a "chair-issue", I already said what I think about that.[/quote]
I know you're not, you're advocating hitting behind the back. The way Krstic was hitting Sofo behind in the neck was extremely dangerous. Any normal person could have had serious injury to their verterbrae, it was for the good luck of Sofo that he's a beast, and good luck for Krstic that his lilly ass was saved from getting a hardcore kicking from Sofo. Krstic at least deserved that.
[quote name='lord_slawe_' date='23 August 2010 - 08:33 PM' timestamp='1282588425' post='24332']Protocol doesnt give a s*** who is Burusis if he is not registered for the game. And he was not. He was just a spectator,[/quote]
What are you talking about? Bouroussis was part of the 15-men NT squad, he wasn't in the 12 playing because he had a fractured metatarsal. He's still part of the team and had every right to be sitting on the bench. This happens on all teams, I don't see what you are going on about 'protocol' for.
[quote name='lord_slawe_' date='23 August 2010 - 08:33 PM' timestamp='1282588425' post='24332']
like the one tiny-tini dark-tanned Greek who was trying to hit Krstic but just couldnt reach him.
And there are some responsibilities for home team for letting spectators go at the court, no matter what was happening.[/quote]
Yeah, you're right about the topless kid who wanted to beat Krstic, lol. That kind of difference is similar to the difference between Krstic and Sofo. But then, when people saw blood coming from a Greek's head, they were right in wanting to jump into the court and giving you all a good thrashing.
Is that how you believe you should be 'fighting' in certain games? Causing bloodshed?
Honestly I don't know how you can contest the whole situation, you don't have a leg to stand on, yet you want protection after you cause bloodshed of one of our people. You were lucky that nothing worse did happen.
[quote name='lord_slawe_' date='23 August 2010 - 08:33 PM' timestamp='1282588425' post='24332']Dont be such an ignorrant. [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Greatest_Euroleague_Contributors"]Here is something to read[/url]. Just count and you'll see we've proven ourselves much, much earlier, when, just for example, you, didnt had anyone or any medal won to brag with it.[/quote]
I'm talking about Serbia's achievements as a basketball team, not individual achievements. As 'Serbia', last year's was the first Eurobasket were you played as such, and not as Serbia & Montenegro any more. This hasn't go to do with bragging or anything as such.
[quote name='lord_slawe_' date='23 August 2010 - 08:33 PM' timestamp='1282588425' post='24332']Sure, lets blame one man for all the success. And all won games.[/quote]
That kind of tactic isn't going to get you avoiding the fact that you had a hefty amount of help from Stankovic in international competition. Many different countries were sick of that blatant favoritism.
[quote name='lord_slawe_' date='23 August 2010 - 08:33 PM' timestamp='1282588425' post='24332']The video shows "anti-athletic" behaviour by Fotsis who could not stand being "hit-to-hurt-as-hell" by a little punk Teodosic so he had to explain him something. Where were refeeres to treat that sort of behaviour with technical fouls?[/quote]
He went up to him and demanded we he did what he did. Technical fouls don't cover any such behaviour since he didn't do anything to him. That kind of thing happens millions of times, and technicals are NEVER given. So what's your point?
[quote name='lord_slawe_' date='23 August 2010 - 08:33 PM' timestamp='1282588425' post='24332']Again, what would you do if you were in Teo's place? seriously?[/quote]
Trash talk and walk away from it? Certainly not punch the other in the face.
[quote name='lord_slawe_' date='23 August 2010 - 08:33 PM' timestamp='1282588425' post='24332']This statement is funny, 'case everybody know that it has nothing to do with what happened that night, it was so transparent PAO-Oly thing as I explained and 99% of objective and normal Greeks confirm that.[/quote]
'normal' Greeks? <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rofl3.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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So what if it was? Is that any kind of valid excuse?
[quote name='lord_slawe_' date='23 August 2010 - 08:33 PM' timestamp='1282588425' post='24332']Further, I would love you to ban all foreigners from you basketball league, especialy our coaches. That would be some interesting competition to follow.[/quote]
OK? <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rofl3.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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[quote name='lord_slawe_' date='23 August 2010 - 08:33 PM' timestamp='1282588425' post='24332']Dont you know who was the coach of Oly while they won one and only Euroleague in their history? And who was one of the best players in that team? And not to start with Obradovic and PAO + Bodiroga..[/quote]
And your point is?
[quote name='lord_slawe_' date='23 August 2010 - 08:33 PM' timestamp='1282588425' post='24332']I dont see how your economic "support" can measure with billions and billions of money we spend vacationing in your country throughout the history. Again, from this point, Tsartsaris's statement is just idiot-man-talking.[/quote]
Billions and billions? <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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Why not just make it quadrillions? <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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We kept your country alive (weapons, political support, support of war refugees, money, medication, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.) during the wars you went through.
But here my point is proved, that instead of being grateful, you're the exact opposite!
[quote name='lord_slawe_' date='23 August 2010 - 08:33 PM' timestamp='1282588425' post='24332']Don't support us ever again.
Have you seen 2005 European championship final? That is support.
And do you know how you have been supporting us in 1995 and 1998?[/quote]
You might not like it, but the reason why you're even being considered for entering the European Union is because of us <img src='http://www.talkbasket.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rofl3.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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But whatever you or I say, diplomacy does not work this way, even if there was this unexpected fracas that occurred.
[quote name='lord_slawe_' date='23 August 2010 - 08:33 PM' timestamp='1282588425' post='24332']So, please, stop supporting us. Release all of our's players and coaches from your clubs.[/quote]
I certainly would love that for Teodosic who isn't good enough to be playing here in Greece, First of all because of the person he's proved to be.
[quote name='lord_slawe_' date='23 August 2010 - 08:33 PM' timestamp='1282588425' post='24332']At the price to let those like Fotsis to behave like he did or Diamantidis to spit on you led by his inadequance to outplay you? Yeah, stand for yourself.
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^ Sorry, I don't understand your English in this sentence.