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Horace Grant was pretty candid on his opinion of The Last Dance in an interview with Kap and Co. on ESPN 1000 in Chicago this week.

Grant, a former teammate of MJ who appeared several times in the documentary, was accused of leaking locker room information to journalist Sam Smith for his book, The Jordan Rules. But Grant says MJ’s claim “is a downright, outright, completely a lie.”

“Lie, lie, lie. … If MJ had a grudge with me, let’s settle this like men,” Grant said, per ESPN. “Let’s talk about it. Or we can settle it another way. But yet and still, he goes out and puts this lie out that I was the source behind [the book]. Sam and I have always been great friends. We’re still great friends. But the sanctity of that locker room, I would never put anything personal out there. The mere fact that Sam Smith was an investigative reporter. That he had to have two sources, two, to write a book, I guess. Why would MJ just point me out?

“It’s only a grudge, man. I’m telling you, it was only a grudge. And I think he proved that during this so-called documentary. When if you say something about him, he’s going to cut you off, he’s going to try to destroy your character.”

Grant also called Jordan a snitch for revealing having seen drugs in his teamates’ room as a rookie.

“And my point is, he said that I was the snitch, but yet and still after 35 years he brings up his rookie year going into one of his teammate’s rooms and seeing coke, and weed and women,” he remarked. “My point is: Why the hell did he want to bring that up? What’s that got to do with anything? I mean, if you want to call somebody a snitch, that’s a damn snitch right there.”