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2nd Group Stage - Day 2

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 06:01 PM

45% at free throws. Is it possible to win a game with this? Besides while Dirk was at the bench, our genius coach didn't use Enes. We still make easy mistakes that wouldn't be at this level tournaments. Although we got 9 rebounds more than Germany, we lost. Now our destiny is in Lithuania's hands. Actually from now on I don't think we can get a win against Serbia.

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 06:04 PM

View Postserbian, on 09 September 2011 - 06:01 PM, said:

45% at free throws. Is it possible to win a game with this? Besides while Dirk was at the bench, our genius coach didn't use Enes. We still make easy mistakes that wouldn't be at this level tournaments. Although we got 9 rebounds more than Germany, we lost. Now our destiny is in Lithuania's hands. Actually from now on I don't think we can get a win against Serbia.

No, your destiny is in your hands.
If you beat Serbia you go on... Am I missing something?! :mellow:

You both are in bad shape, we'll see...

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 06:08 PM

View PostTeoTheGreek13, on 09 September 2011 - 06:04 PM, said:

No, your destiny is in your hands.
If you beat Serbia you go on... Am I missing something?! :mellow:

You both are in bad shape, we'll see...


If Germany beats Lithuania we can't go through even we win.
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Posted 09 September 2011 - 06:14 PM

View Postserbian, on 09 September 2011 - 06:08 PM, said:

If Germany beats Lithuania we can't go through even we win.

Be serious...! ;)
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Posted 09 September 2011 - 07:20 PM

QTR 1 goes to FRANCE

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 07:39 PM

View PostRaze Lupin, on 09 September 2011 - 05:24 PM, said:

Will anyone argue with a Turkish coaching change after this??


No, I gues people will wait sunday. Our offense is getting worse day by day and I really can't understand why. Hedo's smile was as annoying.

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 07:42 PM

View Postserbian, on 09 September 2011 - 06:01 PM, said:

45% at free throws. Is it possible to win a game with this? Besides while Dirk was at the bench, our genius coach didn't use Enes. We still make easy mistakes that wouldn't be at this level tournaments. Although we got 9 rebounds more than Germany, we lost. Now our destiny is in Lithuania's hands. Actually from now on I don't think we can get a win against Serbia.


Our offense sucks, I know that much. But I support the geius, remember Tanjevic in 2007, I think constancy is important.

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 07:56 PM

QTR 2 FRANCE 2-0 France needs to finish stronger at the basket. Noah and Batum blowing baskets. Diaw is showing his emotional instability. Overall France seems to have a calm mental strength. France needs to hit a few more jumpers and 3pts. This is France game to lose. Lietuva is strong but can they guard inside without fouling? It is still anyone's game...

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 07:57 PM

Judging by pre game expectations, what we have seen is... bad. :thudown:
26-34!!! Can't be worst.

Let's hope they'll remember their averages!!! B)

France is very tough.


*If we(Greece) want to achieve the unexpected(final 4) we must take the first spot of group F. :thup:
That's the only way we have some chances! ;)

**By the way, Kirilenko said that their goal is the gold. :blink:
Is he serious?! :rofl3:

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 08:01 PM

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Serbia was so desperate.And after first half they complete fall down.If they don't win against Turkey that will be the end.And probably the end for Ivkovic...

Players that should not play for NT are Perovic man who can squeeze ball :o and Tepic who never made 3-pointer :lol:
Here is also Markovic but he play very well defense and that is only reason why he play.


I've never seen a more pathetic (EDIT: and unskilled) Serbian player than Tepic...

He's an embarassment to have on the Serbian NT...


Currently: France is giving Lithuania a real run for its money? Super fast ball is being played, the style that favours France. If France continues like this, I don't think Lithuania has much of a chance beating the tricolore.

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 08:56 PM

France won Lithuania, so on Sunday we will watch a game between the, probably, two best teams in Eurobasket 2011!! :thup:

Nnado De Colo was the man tonight for France.
Before the game, he averaged 2.2 points per game but tonight he gave France the win by scoring 21(!) points, grabbing 4 rebounds and making 5(!) steals(he even stole the ball from Saras hands)! :thup:

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 09:20 PM

View PostTeoTheGreek13, on 09 September 2011 - 07:57 PM, said:

Judging by pre game expectations, what we have seen is... bad. :thudown:
26-34!!! Can't be worst.

Let's hope they'll remember their averages!!! B)

France is very tough.


*If we(Greece) want to achieve the unexpected(final 4) we must take the first spot of group F. :thup:
That's the only way we have some chances! ;)

**By the way, Kirilenko said that their goal is the gold. :blink:
Is he serious?! :rofl3:



I would take him serious.

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 09:28 PM

Solid and just win for France. How can someone with such offensive prowess (Parker) suck so much from the charity stripe? :blink:
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Posted 09 September 2011 - 09:31 PM

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I would take him serious.

Russia for the gold...?! :rofl3: :rofl3: :rofl3: :rofl3:
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Posted 09 September 2011 - 10:54 PM

View PostTeoTheGreek13, on 09 September 2011 - 09:31 PM, said:

Russia for the gold...?! :rofl3: :rofl3: :rofl3: :rofl3:


Russia has no chance for gold maybe for semis if get little easy team but in first group are all awesome teams.
Also FYROM will have highest placement and that is quarter-final.Reality will be that all four qualified teams from group E in quarter-final will play in semis. :baby: But let see.. ;)
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Posted 09 September 2011 - 11:29 PM

GROUP E SCENARIOS seem to go like this:


anything is possible.

for 1-2 places france and spain will compete. the winner is 1st, the loser 2nd

the rest will play for 3-4.

Lets take all odds

first case
Lithuania wins => ends up 3rd
Turkey wins=> ends up 4th

2nd case
Lithuania wins => ends up 3rd
Serbia wins=> ends up 4th

3rd case
Germany wins, Turkey wins
Germany 3rd, Lithuania 4th

4th case
Germany wins , Serbia wins
triple equality for Serbs, Lithuanians & Germans
up to now we have , Serbia - Germany +11, Lithouania - Serbia +10
so
Serbs are on +1 aggregate
and Lithuanians can afford to lose up to 10 pts.

Germany wins by 1 to 9 pts

Lithuania +1 or more, Serbia +1, Germany -2 or more
and
Lithuania 3rd, Serbia 4th

So if Germany wins by 10 pts we have
Serbia +1, Lithuania 0, Germany -1 so Serbs 3rd, Lithuanians 4th

if germany wins by 11 or 12 pts
Serbs +1 , Germans 0 or +1 , Lithuanians -1 or -2 so Serbs are 3rd and Germans 4th

and last (sub)case
germans win by 13 or more
Germany +2 or more, Serbs +1 , Lithuanians - 3 or more

and Germany 3rd, Serbia 4th

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 01:13 AM

View Poststefans, on 09 September 2011 - 10:54 PM, said:

Russia has no chance for gold maybe for semis if get little easy team but in first group are all awesome teams.
Also FYROM will have highest placement and that is quarter-final.Reality will be that all four qualified teams from group E in quarter-final will play in semis. :baby: But let see.. ;)

In my opinion, in the final four will be 3 teams of group E and 1 team of group F.
I hope that one will be Greece!!! ;)

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 02:28 AM

View PostTeoTheGreek13, on 10 September 2011 - 01:13 AM, said:

In my opinion, in the final four will be 3 teams of group E and 1 team of group F.
I hope that one will be Greece!!! ;)



You could be right. We have a good shot against the russians, if we nullify Kirilenko. Russia's whole game plan is centered around this guy, so were in with a chance. My prediciton is 55-45 Russia. I hope I'm proven wrong!!

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 03:08 AM

View PostRaze Lupin, on 09 September 2011 - 11:29 PM, said:

GROUP E SCENARIOS seem to go like this:


anything is possible.

for 1-2 places france and spain will compete. the winner is 1st, the loser 2nd

the rest will play for 3-4.

Lets take all odds

first case
Lithuania wins => ends up 3rd
Turkey wins=> ends up 4th

2nd case
Lithuania wins => ends up 3rd
Serbia wins=> ends up 4th

3rd case
Germany wins, Turkey wins
Germany 3rd, Lithuania 4th

4th case
Germany wins , Serbia wins
triple equality for Serbs, Lithuanians & Germans
up to now we have , Serbia - Germany +11, Lithouania - Serbia +10
so
Serbs are on +1 aggregate
and Lithuanians can afford to lose up to 10 pts.

Germany wins by 1 to 9 pts

Lithuania +1 or more, Serbia +1, Germany -2 or more
and
Lithuania 3rd, Serbia 4th

So if Germany wins by 10 pts we have
Serbia +1, Lithuania 0, Germany -1 so Serbs 3rd, Lithuanians 4th

if germany wins by 11 or 12 pts
Serbs +1 , Germans 0 or +1 , Lithuanians -1 or -2 so Serbs are 3rd and Germans 4th

and last (sub)case
germans win by 13 or more
Germany +2 or more, Serbs +1 , Lithuanians - 3 or more

and Germany 3rd, Serbia 4th


Really good post. I was initially bummed after today's loss but given that I have tickets to the quarter final games featuring the team that finishes first and the team that finishes third in this group, I am really pleased with Lithuania's odds at placing third. If we win our next game, I will be one happy message board poster!

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 05:44 AM

View PostTeoTheGreek13, on 09 September 2011 - 09:31 PM, said:

Russia for the gold...?! :rofl3: :rofl3: :rofl3: :rofl3:


Why not, they are plying well and they have the trophy culture.

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